New Rule Changes for The MiLR and prospects

[Burkes Boys]

I was wonder where all my minor league prospects were on Fantrax.
Glad I caught this thread.

Well organized league!
Thanks!

[cheesesteak]

I'm gonna have to agree with Chris' point though I don't think it's that big of a deal. Minors rules were set from day 1. Forty games then they get paid and occupy a roster spot with the big boys, regardless if they come up and down 39 times. It took me three weeks and $3.5m to get Brett Connelly on my roster when he only had 10 professional games under his belt, but it's all good. I thought the minors roster expansion draft was stupid restricting it to players drafted in 2011. Once again, 40 games is 40 games.
    League better or worse? Not sure, only a month into the season. Mike has done a fine job maintaining the competitiveness with replacing deadbeat GMs that were an issue last year. Florida and Pitt keep stealing all my prospects            And Drew not having a goalie was karma for ripping off Anahiem in that Hiller deal

[joeshmoe]

I vote to leave the rule as it is now. Its much better. Moves were made with this rule in place. No change is needed.

On a side Gilly and Peter have been great at running this league. The league is in far better shape now then it was last spring. Great job boys.

Why is it much better?

nice shot corey

[Corey]

I vote to leave the rule as it is now. Its much better. Moves were made with this rule in place. No change is needed.

On a side Gilly and Peter have been great at running this league. The league is in far better shape now then it was last spring. Great job boys.

[joeshmoe]

My concerns are the free points with minor leaguers like i said above.

You should only be able to acumalte points for a certin player if you have the cap space, roster space and have included him as part of your roster.

As I have said I'm willing to add call ups. It's the easy solution and something I have been thinking about.

It isn't free points, you make the decision to draft and hold oonto the players.  There are consequences for those choices.  If you want to track call ups feel free to my friend.  I just think you're wasting your time and unless you plan on updating fantrax multiple times a day, you're going to be bogged down.  Furthermore, what if somebody is a scratch and a team is calling a guy up last second.  I then in turn post it but unfortunately a staff has no time to do the transaction.  The guy plays one game in real life and is sent back to AHL.  I then get my guy called up at the next convienece although I no longer need him and I immediately send him back down...two wasted transaction...and I haven't gotten my points...I see this situation happening.

[hockeyfreak6000]

My concerns are the free points with minor leaguers like i said above.

You should only be able to acumalte points for a certin player if you have the cap space, roster space and have included him as part of your roster.

As I have said I'm willing to add call ups. It's the easy solution and something I have been thinking about.

[joeshmoe]

I don't have a problem changeing things if everybody is on the same page. I strongly disagree that MiLr roster players should be able to collect points on fantrax. Whats the point of a salary cap?

example

Ryan Nugget Hopkins has 19 points already and no contract. If he has a contract he would be a 3 mill cap hit. So with your proposal he would have almost 40 points by the time he would have to be signed. Which also means the owning team can have another player who could have the same points in his slot. Then even when added to  the main roster and droping such extra player. The team has a bunch of free points and did not have to tie any cap to it really. I hope that made sence.... lol

I'm open to being able to send players up and down. It can work smoothly like it does in other leagues I'm in but I would need some help on fantrax in some cases..

Well you could shorten the amount of games that a player has to play before mandatory transfer.  Most players don't perform at the exceptional level RNH has...Seguin took his first year to acclimate.  Sending players back and forth...it just seems like more work.  What are the concerns about having the players added on fantrax and simply left on the rosters.  Furthermore it helps the owners to evaluate the talent, and to correlate how their players perform in our system...that's an additional benefit.  I can look up stats but its hard to calculate them into points, this is much easier. 

[hockeyfreak6000]

I don't have a problem changeing things if everybody is on the same page. I strongly disagree that MiLr roster players should be able to collect points on fantrax. Whats the point of a salary cap?

example

Ryan Nugget Hopkins has 19 points already and no contract. If he has a contract he would be a 3 mill cap hit. So with your proposal he would have almost 40 points by the time he would have to be signed. Which also means the owning team can have another player who could have the same points in his slot. Then even when added to  the main roster and droping such extra player. The team has a bunch of free points and did not have to tie any cap to it really. I hope that made sence.... lol

I'm open to being able to send players up and down. It can work smoothly like it does in other leagues I'm in but I would need some help on fantrax in some cases..

[PigsRule]

report of my PM reply...

hey chris, 3 things...
1) discussion is good in any league... especially RE rule changes.

2) disagree with changing rules mid-season / in-season unless theres a grand canyon of a error ... i don't think this qualifies

3) my thoughts on this rule to keep MiLR players off fantrax ... either way is fine since (a) some teams have zero-few NHL ready players while others only have NHL ready players they can move in and out of their fantrax roster daily, (b) every league is different and doesn't have to mimic the NHL 100% ... thought goalies were absolutely needed here in Franchise but one look at Gilly's NYI team and we realize you can play without a goalie... apparently Drew did it last yr.

[Tarheels55]

You can't stack minor guys for two reasons.  A)  there is a minor league roster size limit and B) once a guy plays 40 games in their career they must go to the major league roster or be released.

I understand why you guys made changes at first, to close a revolving door of call ups and send downs which effected signing prices for free agent prospects and then getting the cheaper by calling them up, sending them down, and then getting the cheaper contract for the draft position upon the next call up...confusing sorry. 

Contractually, two separate rosters are important, but for scoring purposed I don't think it is.

I agree with this post makes sense