Expanded Minor Roster Size

[GypsieDeathBringer]

This free agency period is playing out both points.  Snugerud and I wanted to be able to draft guys we researched, i.e. Barberio, Silfverberg, Niilson, and Rob wanted them to get fair market price.  Well their market price is a heck of a lot more then a prospect contract apparently.  So, I am now torn because I like the fact they are getting paid what they should, but hate I now have to pay them. 

[Rob]

I like the draft idea because because you dont have to pass them through FA.  I am going through this on FNHL right now trying to re-build a crappy islanders team.  Its a 30 team league with 15 prospects.  4 round draft that can only be this years draft class.  I have had to do a ton of research to try and find some diamond in the rough prospects to bring on my team but have to pass them through FA.  Inevitably I always have one or two GM's that I am fairly sure had never heard of the guy look them up and start up bidding them because they are like "holy crap" this guy looks good.  I just hate doing all the work just to have someone come in and up bid them.  The draft idea would reward the effort of looking up and finding some of these guys.   

"You know what grinds my gears?" - Peter Griffin

That is a good point, I hate that too.

[snugerud]

I'm torn on the idea of making all prospect eligible players available to draft in the supplemental.  On one hand it would add to our draft strategy.  On the other it would thin out our FA pool.  A guy like Mark Stone might get a lot of attention in FA and perhaps a nice signing bonus or a full NHL contract.  I like that some prospects are in the FA mix, especially now that we have a 5 bid limit and have to use our bids more strategically.  Right now I'm on the 'nay' side of this idea, but again, if the majority is for it then it's on the table.

I like the draft idea because because you dont have to pass them through FA.  I am going through this on FNHL right now trying to re-build a crappy islanders team.  Its a 30 team league with 15 prospects.  4 round draft that can only be this years draft class.  I have had to do a ton of research to try and find some diamond in the rough prospects to bring on my team but have to pass them through FA.  Inevitably I always have one or two GM's that I am fairly sure had never heard of the guy look them up and start up bidding them because they are like "holy crap" this guy looks good.  I just hate doing all the work just to have someone come in and up bid them.  The draft idea would reward the effort of looking up and finding some of these guys.   

"You know what grinds my gears?" - Peter Griffin

[BeanTown]

I agree! My situation ideally would be awesome to have extra minor but I like the challenge to work with it and make it work. Makes it fun to have to use your roster to the best of your ability and knowledge

[cho34]

After hearing the explanations I understand

Thanks

[izaman3]

I agree with Rob and Snug and I think it adds to strategy. Look at the situation Anaheim is in, a completely full roster. Now he's got some choices to make about his strategy before entering FA. It makes you think about whether you want a player who's close to breaking into the NHL or maybe one that is a couple years away but has more upside.

[snugerud]

oh and I say no to changing the roster sizes.  Like Rob says,  it makes people make hard decisions and it leaves some young talent out in the pool for the teams that have to come in and re-build after Gilly ran it. (I hope you read this one Gilly)

[snugerud]

Well, we know where I stand, but I do think we should wait to see what the FA holds for everyone.  I just thought it would give draft picks an added value and maybe a way for teams to rebuild through the draft and youth.  you could still sign FA's after the draft as well. 
I was just thinking it gives teams a chance to pick or rebuild a little without the interference from the rest.

[Rob]

I hijacked this from Cho in the questions forum.

The Penguins wanted to increase the size of our minor league roster.

I would say I am against increasing the size if our yearly draft continues to be based on just the NHL draft class for that year.

Although I would like to increase the size if we expand our yearly draft to not only incoming rookies, but any unclaimed player that qualifies for one of our prospect contracts.  Lets say a guy like Mark Stone wasn't currently owned by one of us and our draft comes around.  He is still a rookie signed with an NHL team, but from a previous draft year.  He had a great year in the minors and internationally and would draw much attention in our draft this year.  Basically drafting late bloomers from previous draft classes.  This idea was kicked around by a snugerud originally.

I am currently not for increasing the roster size.  I think it works pretty well how it is.  We have pretty large NHL rosters to contain prospect overflow.  Having said that, if the majority of you want to increase the rosters then we'll do it.

I'm torn on the idea of making all prospect eligible players available to draft in the supplemental.  On one hand it would add to our draft strategy.  On the other it would thin out our FA pool.  A guy like Mark Stone might get a lot of attention in FA and perhaps a nice signing bonus or a full NHL contract.  I like that some prospects are in the FA mix, especially now that we have a 5 bid limit and have to use our bids more strategically.  Right now I'm on the 'nay' side of this idea, but again, if the majority is for it then it's on the table.

[GypsieDeathBringer]

I hijacked this from Cho in the questions forum.

The Penguins wanted to increase the size of our minor league roster.

I would say I am against increasing the size if our yearly draft continues to be based on just the NHL draft class for that year.

Although I would like to increase the size if we expand our yearly draft to not only incoming rookies, but any unclaimed player that qualifies for one of our prospect contracts.  Lets say a guy like Mark Stone wasn't currently owned by one of us and our draft comes around.  He is still a rookie signed with an NHL team, but from a previous draft year.  He had a great year in the minors and internationally and would draw much attention in our draft this year.  Basically drafting late bloomers from previous draft classes.  This idea was kicked around by a snugerud originally.