Need New Scoring System

[Bazinga McCringa]

Having examined the scoring system, I agree that a revamp of it might be nice, and I would be in favor of removing defense entirely, due to the weight it places on particular positions. However, I can't understand the idea of giving two points for a homer, but losing 10 for a blown save. With the proposed scoring system, pitchers are valued almost too heavily, however, the metrics used are good at giving more value to depth than talent.

[seanrmgallagher]

I totally agree that the scoring for this league is screwed up. First basemen/Catchers become way more valuable comparatively. That being said, this league has existed for a while, and I have personally made a lot of moves based on the scoring system as is. For instance, I would not have traded for Ike Davis and John Jaso or pushed to sign James Loney and Carlos Ruiz last year. So, changing the rules would hurt my team as it is set up pretty significantly.

That being said, while I do not want the scoring to change, I like the changes to the offense. I disagree that fielding shouldn't be incorporated though. The previous system was obviously flawed, but fielding is a huge part of evaluating players- I would suggest trying to incorporate fielding in a point system the way that WAR tries to use it. There are fantasy leagues that use a point system like that. Also, I think that the previous point system for pitching was not bad for our league. It may have overvalued closers/set-up men compared to real-life value, but it seemed fair when you compared player's performance.

[yahoolando]

We need to change the scoring in this league.

I currently haven't had a chance to analyse it but it makes zero sense to me in regards to the value of certain players.

I want to eliminate any defence scoring as we don't draft players based on defence and never will.

I would like to change it to something like the following but not until the extension period is over so we all have the same variables for the extensions.

This is posted for discussion purposes and by no means is this written in stone but I think something needs to change and I am sure a few of you do as well.

Hitting
Hits (H)  1
Strikeout (SO) -2
Home Runs (HR)   2
Runs Batted In (RBI)   2
Runs Scored (R)   2
Stolen Bases (SB)   1.5
Caught Stealing (CS) -1.5
Walks (BB)   2
Total Bases (TB)     1.5
Grounded Into Double Play (GIDP)  -2

Pitching
Blown Saves (BS)   -10
Earned Runs Allowed (ER)   -3
Hits Allowed (H)   -1
Holds (Hld)   5
Quality Starts (QS)   5
Saves (Sv)   10
Strikeouts (K)   3
Walks Allowed (BB)   -1.5
Wins (W)   10
Losses (L)   -5
Shutout (ShO)  5

In our league Victor Martinez was the 9th ranked Catcher because he only produced 103 Put-outs.  But hit .301 with 14 HR and 83 RBI in 159 games.  This is absurd.

2013 Catcher Ranks (AFB)
FP     PPG    Name
655.4  4.82   Yadier Molina
648.6  4.38   Buster Posey
639.6  4.35   Jonathan Lucroy
637.2  4.14   Carlos Santana
601.8  4.07   Matt Wieters
596.6  4.29   Mike Napoli
576.6  4.18   Salvador Perez
532.4  3.97   AJ Pierzynski
516.2  3.25   Victor Martinez
489.8  4.05   Jarrod Saltalamacchia

With my new stats Martinez would be the top ranked catcher.

2013 Catcher Ranks - new scoring layout
FP     PPG    Name
844.8  5.31   Victor Martinez
810.9  5.27   Carlos Sanatana
768.8  5.65   Yadier Molina
761.4  5.18   Jonathan Lucroy
758.4  5.12   Buster Posey
649.0  4.39   Matt Wieters
642.5  4.66   Salvador Perez
632.4  5.60   Joe Mauer
619.9  4.46   Mike Napoli
587.4  4.85   Wilin Rosario

In our league the way it is Yadier Molina has more PPG at 4.82 than Mike Trout at 4.51 or Andrew McCutcheon at 3.95 PPG!

With the new scoring Trout produces 7.17 PPG and McCutcheon 6.3 PPG.

Lets make the scoring based on how we feel fantasy players should be valued.  Depth is one thing.  But quality should rank ahead of quantity more often that not!