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[mjmezzetti]

There are more from last year and there will likely be more in season.  Adam Dunn would likely be the most valuable player in our league, maybe double Pujols' value.  Daniel Murphy would likely be the second best player in the league.  Although it might only be a handful of players these players value will significantly alter the league scoring.

If you're comfortable with it, roll it out...  You don't need my approval.

[mjmezzetti]

Such players are few and far between... let's bring up common 1B/OF...

Adam Dunn - 67 at 1B, 84 in OF
I can't think of anyone who had so many appearances at both first and the outfield.  Dunn is horrible at defense hence why he was shipped to first base.  He can gain a lot of extra defensive points as an outfielder for the Nationals or another team in 2010.

Nick Swisher - 20 at 1B, 134 in OF
He will be 1B/OF eligible in 2009 thanks to just making the cusp.  Most of his games will be in OF/DH for the season unless Teixiera is hurt.

Kendry Morales - 152 at 1B, 0 in OF (12 in OF in 2008)
Morales would have never gained OF eligibility in 2009 with our 20/20 setup.  He played every game at 1B in 2009 and will stay at that position in 2010.

Steve Pearce - 42 at 1B, 1 in OF (29 in OF in 2008)
Similar to Morales, he'll be losing the OF eligibility, but he would have had during all 42 of his games at 1B in 2009 because of his +20 outfield appearances in 2008

Carlos Guillen - 2 at 1B (24 in 2008), 0 at 3B (89 in 2008), 42 in OF (2 in 2008)
Guillen has been commonly used at the hot corner, first base, and outfield.  He will be an OF in 2010 per our eligibility rules, but he may end up playing at 1B/3B in real life.

There are more from last year and there will likely be more in season.  Adam Dunn would likely be the most valuable player in our league, maybe double Pujols' value.  Daniel Murphy would likely be the second best player in the league.  Although it might only be a handful of players these players value will significantly alter the league scoring.

[Colby]

If this is going by where the player plays for his actual mlb team then there's no issue, if it's dependent on where you play him for your fantasy league it's a huge problem.  Can anyone clarify?

Per my examples, issues of starting OF who are 1B in real life will be few and far between.  I have a feeling we will always be tweaking scoring year-to-year, but I think all of the work we put in over the last five months has been solid enough to be in the rules and be better than any fantasy baseball league I have ever seen.

[Colby]

Alright, fair enough.  This will likely be a huge issue when a 1b is of-eligible and record over a thousand putouts at 2 points each.  I guess the winning strategy is to accrue as many outfield eligible first basemen as you can and start them in the outfield... Unless I'm not understanding this accurately.

Such players are few and far between... let's bring up common 1B/OF...

Adam Dunn - 67 at 1B, 84 in OF
I can't think of anyone who had so many appearances at both first and the outfield.  Dunn is horrible at defense hence why he was shipped to first base.  He can gain a lot of extra defensive points as an outfielder for the Nationals or another team in 2010.

Nick Swisher - 20 at 1B, 134 in OF
He will be 1B/OF eligible in 2009 thanks to just making the cusp.  Most of his games will be in OF/DH for the season unless Teixiera is hurt.

Kendry Morales - 152 at 1B, 0 in OF (12 in OF in 2008)
Morales would have never gained OF eligibility in 2009 with our 20/20 setup.  He played every game at 1B in 2009 and will stay at that position in 2010.

Steve Pearce - 42 at 1B, 1 in OF (29 in OF in 2008)
Similar to Morales, he'll be losing the OF eligibility, but he would have had during all 42 of his games at 1B in 2009 because of his +20 outfield appearances in 2008

Carlos Guillen - 2 at 1B (24 in 2008), 0 at 3B (89 in 2008), 42 in OF (2 in 2008)
Guillen has been commonly used at the hot corner, first base, and outfield.  He will be an OF in 2010 per our eligibility rules, but he may end up playing at 1B/3B in real life.

[mjmezzetti]

Alright, fair enough.  This will likely be a huge issue when a 1b is of-eligible and record over a thousand putouts at 2 points each.  I guess the winning strategy is to accrue as many outfield eligible first basemen as you can and start them in the outfield... Unless I'm not understanding this accurately.

If this is going by where the player plays for his actual mlb team then there's no issue, if it's dependent on where you play him for your fantasy league it's a huge problem.  Can anyone clarify?

[mjmezzetti]

Alright, fair enough.  This will likely be a huge issue when a 1b is of-eligible and record over a thousand putouts at 2 points each.  I guess the winning strategy is to accrue as many outfield eligible first basemen as you can and start them in the outfield... Unless I'm not understanding this accurately.

[lp815]

Understood, Colby.  Might be best we roll out with the new scoring now if Fantrax cannot guarantee we will get our old rankings back.

[clidwin]

I agree with Ben as well.  MJ, I think we have enough that we could just see how this season goes. 

*BTW, Fantrax emailed me saying that they did change their scoring algorithm, but I heard nothing about if we can get their old rankings.  We may have to roll out the new scoring system a bit early for the purpose of contract extensions.  To be fair to the pending transactions, I would say allow them to use the old extensions already posted (as long as they didn't edit the post) or the new ones.  We can't go back and re-value old contract extensions... they were made and set in stone.  At least basing values off of fantasy points will be set in stone and not change based on Fantrax.

yes need to get the scoring system out!

[Colby]

I agree with Ben as well.  MJ, I think we have enough that we could just see how this season goes. 

*BTW, Fantrax emailed me saying that they did change their scoring algorithm, but I heard nothing about if we can get their old rankings.  We may have to roll out the new scoring system a bit early for the purpose of contract extensions.  To be fair to the pending transactions, I would say allow them to use the old extensions already posted (as long as they didn't edit the post) or the new ones.  We can't go back and re-value old contract extensions... they were made and set in stone.  At least basing values off of fantasy points will be set in stone and not change based on Fantrax.

[lp815]

I'll side with the Brewers regarding midseason position restructuring.  Should be for a whole season, for the reason Ben stated above.